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How Kevin Mandia Built the Most Trusted Name in Cybersecurity

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Published: 04/06/2026 04:22:54

How Kevin Mandia Built the Most Trusted Name in Cybersecurity Episode Details

What does security look like when attackers use AI better than you do?Armadin recently raised $200M to build for the “attacker of the future,” where attacks are autonomous and harder to contain.On the Kleiner Perkins Grit podcast, Kevin Mandia joins Joubin Mirzadegan to share how he’s thinking about this shift, why cybersecurity has always been a calling, and why customer trust is what ultimately compounds into market leadership.Guest: Kevin Mandia, Founder and CEO, ArmadinConnect with Kevin MandiaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-mandia-0a07173/Connect with Josh Coyne:XLinkedInConnect with Joubin:XLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.comFollow on LinkedInFollow on X​Learn more about Kleiner

The Silicon Valley Insider In The Pentagon | DoW Emil Michael

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Published: 03/23/2026 04:01:27

The Silicon Valley Insider In The Pentagon | DoW Emil Michael Episode Details

Emil Michael went from scaling Uber across 600 cities to rewiring the world's largest military.In the midst of the Pentagon-Silicon Valley debate, the now U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering opens up about what a real partnership demands from both sides.He also shares how he's built three new entry points for defense tech companies, and why America's military is called the "Department of War" again.Guest: Emil Michael, U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Research and EngineeringConnect with Emil MichaelXLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.comFollow on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/kpgritFollow on X:https://x.com/KPGrit​Learn more about

How Sierra Is Pulling Ahead in the AI Race | Co-founder Bret Taylor

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Published: 03/09/2026 05:44:27

How Sierra Is Pulling Ahead in the AI Race | Co-founder Bret Taylor Episode Details

Few founders have seen Silicon Valley from every seat at the table.After co-creating Google Maps at Google, serving as CTO at Facebook, and later as co-CEO of Salesforce, Bret Taylor is now building AI agents at Sierra to redefine customer experience.On Grit, he explains why “competitive intensity” is a core value at their fast-growing company and why he believes AI won’t lead to a world where people stop working.Guest: Bret Taylor, co-founder of SierraConnect with Bret XLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.comFollow GritLinkedInX​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins:https://www.kleinerperkins.com/

The AI Era of Cybercrime: How Malwarebytes Is Evolving Its Security Stack | Marcin Kleczynski

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Published: 02/23/2026 03:59:50

The AI Era of Cybercrime: How Malwarebytes Is Evolving Its Security Stack | Marcin Kleczynski Episode Details

What began as a 14 year old fixing infected computers became Malwarebytes, an 800 person cybersecurity company trusted by millions of customers.On Grit, Marcin Kleczynski joins Joubin Mirzadegan to explore AI driven cyber threats, strategic reinvention, and the discipline of evolving before the market forces you to.“We’ve exceeded. Now, what do we do to protect individuals against the next wave of threats, which are plentiful?”Guest: Marcin Kleczynski, CEO at MalwarebytesConnect with Marcin KleczynskiX: https://x.com/mkleczynskiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcinkleczynski/Connect with JoubinX: https://x.com/JoubinmirLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/Email: grit@kleinerperkins.comFollow on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/kpgritFollow on X:https://x.com/KPGrit​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins: https://www.kleinerperkins.com/

The Truth Behind Automation Claims in Customer Support | Cresta CEO Ping Wu

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Published: 02/09/2026 04:06:03

The Truth Behind Automation Claims in Customer Support | Cresta CEO Ping Wu Episode Details

Can you scale customer support without burning out agents or frustrating customers?Ping Wu shares how Cresta combines AI and human intelligence into a single system that scales sustainably for companies like United Airlines and Porsche.In this episode, Ping also breaks down the three constraints that shape automation in the real world: conversation complexity, infrastructure debt, and customer demographics.Guest: Ping Wu, CEO of CrestaConnect with Ping WuX: https://x.com/ping_wuLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pingwu/Connect with JoubinX: https://x.com/JoubinmirLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/Email: grit@kleinerperkins.comFollow on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/kpgritFollow on X:https://x.com/KPGrit​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins: https://www.kleinerperkins.com/

The Safest Dollar on the Internet | Circle CEO Jeremy Allaire

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Published: 01/26/2026 04:29:06

The Safest Dollar on the Internet | Circle CEO Jeremy Allaire Episode Details

USDC closed the gap between software and law in modern finance.On Grit, Jeremy Allaire discusses how fully reserved, dollar backed digital currency became part of the financial system after more than a decade of work.He also shares why for him grit is about sustaining belief through deep uncertainty, even when Circle faced the threat of bankruptcy in 2019.Guest: Jeremy Allaire, Co-Founder, Chairman and CEO at Circle​Connect with Jeremy AllaireX: https://x.com/jerallaireLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyallaire/Connect with JoubinX: https://x.com/JoubinmirLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/Email: grit@kleinerperkins.comFollow on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/kpgritFollow on X:https://x.com/KPGrit​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins:https://www.kleinerperkins.com/

Why We’re Only Using 1% of AI | Glean CEO Arvind Jain

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Published: 01/12/2026 04:17:12

Why We're Only Using 1% of AI | Glean CEO Arvind Jain Episode Details

Glean has grown into a $7.2B company by giving employees AI assistants and agents that extend their capabilities.CEO Arvind Jain is back on Grit alongside Joubin Mirzadegan. Here’s what stood out:“My mindset by default is that if you build something last year, that it's got to be obsolete. There has to be a new way to do that thing better today. If not, then it's just lack of imagination.”“I have no doubts that AI capabilities are just going to increase more and more over the next few years. But even more

The Grittiest Conversations of 2025: AI, Business & Beyond

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Published: 12/29/2025 04:00:19

The Grittiest Conversations of 2025: AI, Business & Beyond Episode Details

In this recap episode, we highlight the best moments from our 2025 interviews and reflect on the ideas that defined the year.Featuring:David Rubenstein (co-founder of Carlyle) Yamini Rangan (CEO of HubSpot) Ben Chestnut (co-founder of Mailchimp) Winston Weinberg (co-founder and CEO of Harvey)Garrett Lord (co-founder of Handshake) Aidan Gomez (co-founder and CEO of Cohere) Michelle Zatlyn (co-founder of Cloudflare) Evan Spiegel (co-founder and CEO of Snap) Connect with JoubinX: https://x.com/JoubinmirLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/Email: grit@kleinerperkins.comFollow on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/kpgritFollow on X:https://x.com/KPGrit​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins: https://www.kleinerperkins.com/

How Brands Stay Visible When AI Decides | Profound CEO James Cadwallader

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Published: 12/22/2025 04:21:12

How Brands Stay Visible When AI Decides | Profound CEO James Cadwallader Episode Details

What happens when AI becomes your most influential referrer?As consumers turn to ChatGPT for answers, James Cadwallader and his team at Profound help brands like Eight Sleep and MongoDB gain visibility and leverage inside AI models.On this episode of Grit, he explains why brand narrative has shifted away from content, and why Profound is scaling globally ahead of traditional SaaS timelines.Guest: James Cadwallader, co-founder and CEO of Profound and Ilya Fushman, partner at Kleiner PerkinsConnect with James CadwalladerX: https://x.com/thejamescad?lang=enLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jsca/​Connect with Ilya FushmanX: https://x.com/ilyafLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyafushman/Connect with JoubinX: https://x.com/JoubinmirLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/Email: grit@kleinerperkins.comFollow on

How Snap Plans to Win the AR Race | Evan Spiegel on Spectacles

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Published: 12/15/2025 04:36:02

How Snap Plans to Win the AR Race | Evan Spiegel on Spectacles Episode Details

Turning down a $3B offer from Facebook is a bold move for any young CEO.Evan Spiegel shares how Snap’s early dream was to stay independent and give its community an authentic voice, a bet that proved right.He also explains why they are now doubling down on AR glasses and why the anxiety around AI deserves far more attention from tech leaders.Guest: Evan Spiegel, co-founder and CEO of Snap Inc. and Bing Gordon, Advisor at Kleiner Perkins​Connect with Evan SpiegelX:https://x.com/evanspiegel?lang=enLinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-spiegel/​Connect with Bing GordonX: https://x.com/bingfish LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/binggordon/Connect with JoubinX: https://x.com/JoubinmirLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/Email: grit@kleinerperkins.com​Learn more

The Pull to Build: Joubin Mirzadegan on Grit and Starting Roadrunner

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Published: 12/08/2025 04:57:06

The Pull to Build: Joubin Mirzadegan on Grit and Starting Roadrunner Episode Details

What does it take to go from advising founders to becoming one?On this week’s special Reverse Grit episode, we flip the script and put our Grit podcast host Joubin Mirzadegan in the guest seat.Joubin recently founded Roadrunner, where he is now co-founder & CEO. Roadrunner is building an AI‑native CPQ to modernize the quote‑to‑cash stack, drawing on years of conversations he’s had with enterprise revenue leaders.Stepping into the host role, Mamoon Hamid joins Joubin to talk about his transition from sales leader to founder, how Roadrunner came together, and why it

Building Cloudflare for the Next 50 Years | Co-founder Cloudfare Michelle Zatlyn

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Published: 12/01/2025 04:46:36

Building Cloudflare for the Next 50 Years | Co-founder Cloudfare Michelle Zatlyn Episode Details

Fifteen years in, it can still feel like “we’re just getting started.”Michelle Zatlyn, co-founder of Cloudflare, returns to Grit with Joubin Mirzadegan to share how Cloudflare secures the internet for millions, with a vision built to last generations.She also shares why staying close to reality and to customers becomes harder as success compounds, and how Cloudflare is helping content creators regain control in an AI driven internet.Guest: Michelle Zatlyn, co-founder and President of CloudflareConnect with Michelle ZatlynXLinkedIn​Connect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins

She Sold Her Startup for $500 Million, Here’s Her Next Idea

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Published: 11/24/2025 04:31:23

She Sold Her Startup for $500 Million, Here's Her Next Idea Episode Details

Screens have pulled families apart. Brynn Putnam set out to bring them back together with Board, the world’s ‘first face-to-face game console.’On Grit, she tells Joubin Mirzadegan how every venture she’s built, including Mirror, started as a personal need, and how her true edge is the ability to strip an idea down to what actually matters.Guest: Brynn Putnam, founder and CEO of BoardConnect with Brynn PutnamXLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins

Synthetic Data and the Future of AI | Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez

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Published: 11/17/2025 04:46:17

Synthetic Data and the Future of AI | Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez Episode Details

How do companies like Salesforce and Dell scale intelligence across every cloud?Aidan Gomez, co-founder and CEO of Cohere, explains how they’re building AI that works across all enterprise systems and deploys anywhere, giving companies true flexibility and security.He joins Joubin Mirzadegan for a wide-ranging conversation on why synthetic data went from dismissed to indispensable, and how the race among AI labs is really unfolding.Guest: Aidan Gomez, co-founder and CEO of CohereConnect with Aidan: XLinkedInConnect with Joubin: XLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.comLearn more about Kleiner Perkins

From Yext to Roam: Howard Lerman’s Second Act

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Published: 11/10/2025 04:00:00

From Yext to Roam: Howard Lerman's Second Act Episode Details

The hardest company to build is the one you start after you’ve already succeeded.After scaling Yext into a platform powering millions of businesses, Howard Lerman chose to start over with Roam, the “Office of the Future,” where humans and AI work side by side from anywhere.On Grit, he joins Joubin Mirzadegan to talk about the solitude of leadership and what happens when you stop building for Wall Street.Guest: Howard Lerman, co-founder and former CEO of Yext, and founder and CEO of Roam​Connect with Howard LermanXLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com​Learn more about Kleiner

Rebuilding Front for the AI Era | CEO Dan O’Connell

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Published: 11/03/2025 04:00:00

Rebuilding Front for the AI Era | CEO Dan O'Connell Episode Details

The hardest part of transformation is knowing what to let go of.Dan O’Connell, now leading Front as CEO and formerly on the board at Dialpad, joins Joubin Mirzadegan to explore the delicate balance between legacy and innovation as he leads a decade old company through the AI revolution.He also reflects on why courage and control can coexist in leadership, and what it means to “make decisions that give you energy.”Guest: Dan O’Connell, CEO of Front​Connect with Dan O’ConnellXLinkedIn​Connect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins

ElevenLabs’ Vision for Voice Interfaces | CEO Mati Staniszewski

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Published: 10/27/2025 04:00:00

ElevenLabs' Vision for Voice Interfaces | CEO Mati Staniszewski Episode Details

Before AI became a buzzword, a few true believers were already building.Since early 2022, Mati Staniszewski and his team at ElevenLabs have been among them, working to create voices that “actually represent emotions.”He shares with Joubin Mirzadegan how voice AI is transforming diverse fields, from delivering personalized healthcare for different age groups to amplifying creativity in filmmaking.Guest: Mati Staniszewski, co-founder and CEO of ElevenLabsConnect with Mati StaniszewskiXLinkedIn​Connect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com​​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins

95% Faster Video Production with Synthesia | Victor Riparbelli

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Published: 10/20/2025 04:00:00

95% Faster Video Production with Synthesia | Victor Riparbelli Episode Details

What’s product-market fit like when you give people the power to do what they never thought was possible?On this rerun of Grit from April 2024, Victor Riparbelli, co-founder and CEO of Synthesia, shares how his platform gave billions a new way to create video without cameras, and explores a future where video and audio replace text as the primary way to share knowledge and content.Guests: Victor Riparbelli, CEO and co-founder of Synthesia and Josh Coyne, Partner at Kleiner PerkinsConnect with Victor RiparbelliX: https://x.com/vriparbelliLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorriparbelli/​Connect with Josh CoyneX: https://x.com/josh_coyneLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuacoyne/​Connect with JoubinX:

From Idea To Impact: How Gamma Is Redefining Presentations | Grant Lee

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Published: 10/13/2025 04:31:27

From Idea To Impact: How Gamma Is Redefining Presentations | Grant Lee Episode Details

Make your product irresistible, and everything else will follow.That’s the philosophy of Grant Lee, co-founder and CEO of Gamma, an AI design platform with an 'anti-PowerPoint approach', used by over 50M people.This week on Grit, he also shares why enduring businesses aren’t one person shows, and how their deliberate hiring process shapes and strengthens company culture.Connect with Grant LeeXLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.comLearn more about Kleiner Perkins

Leadership Lessons From Snowflake’s Sales & Marketing Duo | Chris Degnan and Denise Persson

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Published: 10/06/2025 04:53:26

Leadership Lessons From Snowflake's Sales & Marketing Duo | Chris Degnan and Denise Persson Episode Details

Scaling a business globally comes down to leaders who align teams and drive them forward together.Snowflake serves over 12,000 customers, and early executives Chris Degnan and Denise Persson share how they scaled the company while keeping the unlikely pairing of sales and marketing perfectly aligned through hypergrowth.They join Joubin Mirzadegan to share insights from their new book, Make It Snow, revealing how they built Snowflake’s ‘go-to-market engine’ and fostered a customer-first culture across every function.Guests: Chris Degnan, former CRO and advisor to the CEO at Snowflake, and Denise Persson, CMO at

The Man Who Builds for the Decade Ahead | Founder of Google X, Waymo, and Udacity

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Published: 09/29/2025 04:45:01

The Man Who Builds for the Decade Ahead | Founder of Google X, Waymo, and Udacity Episode Details

What does it take to reinvent entire industries, over and over again?This week on Grit, Sebastian Thrun, the “godfather” of self-driving cars and massive open online courses, reflects on a career pushing the boundaries of technology across mobility, education, and AI.With Joubin Mirzadegan, he shares why he believes autonomous driving could become the biggest lifesaving technology in history, and how a wake-up call led him to found Udacity to truly democratize higher education.Guest: Sebastian Thrun, CEO of Stealth Startup, founder of Google X and UdacityConnect with Sebastian ThrunXLinkedIn​Connect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com​Learn

How WordPress Became a Web Giant | Automattic Founder and CEO Matt Mullenweg

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Published: 09/22/2025 04:36:55

How WordPress Became a Web Giant | Automattic Founder and CEO Matt Mullenweg Episode Details

What kind of founder builds a billion-dollar company around something anyone can use for free? Matt Mullenweg, co-founder of WordPress and CEO of Automattic, joins Joubin Mirzadegan to reflect on two decades of building the platform that now powers over 43% of all websites through cycles of doubt, decline, and reinvention.He also shares how Automattic aligns employees with its mission to democratize publishing and commerce through paid sabbaticals and remote work.Guest: Matt Mullenweg, co-founder of WordPress and founder and CEO of AutomatticConnect with Matt MullenwegXLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com​Learn more about Kleiner

The Central Nervous System for Modern Business | Confluent CEO Jay Kreps

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Published: 09/15/2025 04:43:36

The Central Nervous System for Modern Business | Confluent CEO Jay Kreps Episode Details

The apps and websites we use every day depend on systems most of us never see.Jay Kreps joins Joubin Mirzadegan to share how Confluent became the ‘central nervous system’ for companies like Expedia and eBay, letting them respond to business operations instantly.They also break down why the myth of AI-driven efficiency falls short, and why building truly transformative companies takes far longer than most people expect.​Guest: Jay Kreps, Co-Founder & CEO of ConfluentConnect with JayXLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins

Airtable’s AI Reboot with CEO Howie Liu

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Published: 09/08/2025 04:18:48

Airtable's AI Reboot with CEO Howie Liu Episode Details

Can a no-code giant reinvent itself in the AI-native era?This week on Grit, Airtable CEO Howie Liu shares what it means to “refound” a company, how speed comes from tearing up old playbooks, and why conversational AI is reshaping his product—and his company.Guest: Howie Liu, Co-Founder & CEO of AirtableChapters:00:00 Intro01:04 First startup & YC04:06 Salesforce acqui-hire07:31 Life-changing exit at 2211:07 Scaling too fast, layoffs14:04 Sparks vs. coasting growth19:33 Two years to launch24:04 Could AI Build It Faster?27:06 Vibe coding & AI startups36:47 Everyone can build software41:08 Refounding Airtable with AI51:04

Inside the Mind of the World’s Most Optimistic CEO

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Published: 09/01/2025 04:44:33

Inside the Mind of the World's Most Optimistic CEO Episode Details

For Bill McDermott, work has never been just a job.On this Labor Day rerun of Grit, first published Jan 9, 2023, the ServiceNow CEO reflects on what he learned from his earliest jobs and how he carried those lessons from a deli counter in Long Island to the boardroom of an $80B software company.We cover:Why Bill bought a deli when he was in high school — and how he competed against 7-Eleven (04:00)Interviewing at Xerox and wanting it more than anyone else (08:17)Unwavering optimism and being a source of strength for

How Dropbox Beat Big Tech in the Cloud Wars

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Published: 08/25/2025 04:29:38

How Dropbox Beat Big Tech in the Cloud Wars Episode Details

How do you win when your competitors are the biggest companies in the world?This week on Grit, Dropbox co-founder and CEO Drew Houston retraces the path from a bus-stop prototype to competing head-on with Google, Apple, and Microsoft.He explains why grit is “learning to run toward discomfort,” and the moments he realized founders keep going “for the love of the game.”Guest: Drew Houston, Co-Founder & CEO of DropboxChapters:00:00 Trailer00:52 Introduction01:35 Towards full autonomy16:20 Coming back to school21:45 Golden ticket to California25:23 No one’s born a CEO28:15 Y Combinator and a co-founder37:53

Building High-Impact Sales Teams | Dan Lee and Nooks

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Published: 08/18/2025 04:42:28

Building High-Impact Sales Teams | Dan Lee and Nooks Episode Details

Even with AI, sales still comes down to human connection. This week on Grit, Dan Lee shares how Nooks automates busywork like research and dialing for thousands of sales teams, letting reps focus on the conversations that close deals.He also shares his “do more with less” approach, why cold calls still convert, and how to maximize human impact alongside AI.Guests: Dan Lee, CEO and Co-founder of Nooks and Leigh Marie Braswell, Partner at Kleiner PerkinsConnect with Dan Lee: XLinkedInConnect with Leigh Marie BraswellXLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.comLearn more about Kleiner Perkins

Shishir Mehrotra on Building Tools Creators Love

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Published: 08/11/2025 04:34:57

Shishir Mehrotra on Building Tools Creators Love Episode Details

What if your tools shared context like your team does?This week on Grit, Shishir Mehrotra shares how the Coda and Grammarly collaboration unlocks context as a “superpower,” reflects on his early days at Google and YouTube, and hints at a future where tools anticipate intent and amplify how we work.He also shares how this paves the way for agent-based workflows and AI-native communication, beginning with Superhuman’s email experience.Guest: Shishir Mehrotra, co-founder of Coda and CEO of GrammarlyConnect with ShishirXLinkedInChapters: 00:00 Trailer01:24 Introduction02:09 Zoo vs safari12:02 A TV ahead of its time21:25

How Notion Reimagined Productivity Tools | Ivan Zhao

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Published: 08/04/2025 04:30:00

How Notion Reimagined Productivity Tools | Ivan Zhao Episode Details

Ivan Zhao joins Joubin Mirzadegan on Grit to break down how the company’s minimalist design became a strategic edge in a world overwhelmed by bloated software. He shares why the AI agent still hasn’t arrived, and how Notion’s modular approach might be the closest thing to making it real.Guest: Ivan Zhao, co-founder and CEO of NotionMentioned in this episode: Fuzzy Khosrowshahi, Airbnb, Sequoia Capital, Linear, Figma, Apple, Things, Microsoft, BMW, Lumiere, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, Rippling, Matt MacInnis, Inkling, Steve Jobs, Douglas Engelbart, Alan Kay, Bill Gates, OpenAI

The Travel Giant Built on Billions of Reviews | Steve Kaufer on TripAdvisor

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Published: 07/28/2025 04:56:08

The Travel Giant Built on Billions of Reviews | Steve Kaufer on TripAdvisor Episode Details

How did Tripadvisor become every traveler’s starting point?Steve Kaufer joins Joubin Mirzadegan on Grit to break down how Tripadvisor became the internet’s trusted travel companion, built on over a billion reviews and decades of trust. He also shares why early personalization fell short and how AI is finally doing what travel agents once did by understanding the traveler, but faster, smarter, and at scale.Guest: Steve Kaufer, co-founder of TripAdvisorChapters:(00:00) Trailer(00:45) Introduction(01:32) Early days of Tripadvisor(08:14) Catching the startup bug(18:42) Luck and timing(26:54) $200M: a combo of money and risk(37:37) I love

The Expert Network Behind Handshake AI’s Model Training w/ Garrett Lord & Mamoon Hamid

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Published: 07/21/2025 04:30:00

The Expert Network Behind Handshake AI's Model Training w/ Garrett Lord & Mamoon Hamid Episode Details

Guests: Garrett Lord, co-founder and CEO of Handshake; and Mamoon Hamid, partner at Kleiner Perkins.Handshake set out to democratize career opportunity. In the process, it unlocked something more: a high-trust expert network built on verified talent and earned trust.This week on Grit, Garrett Lord shares how what began as a platform for student job seekers is now partnering with leading labs, enabling experts to train real-world AI systems. He explains how owning verified domain talent has become their core strategic edge, bypassing middlemen and turning a decade of trust into lasting

How Plaid Turned a Failed $5.3B Deal with Visa into Momentum | Zach Perret (Plaid)

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Published: 07/14/2025 04:10:00

How Plaid Turned a Failed $5.3B Deal with Visa into Momentum | Zach Perret (Plaid) Episode Details

Zach Perret saw a fintech explosion coming—and built the rails before it arrived.On this week’s Grit, the Plaid co-founder and CEO retraces his path from building tools for developers to linking the world’s largest banks, and how a failed $5.3B acquisition by Visa became a launchpad.He unpacks the pressure of operating in a tightly regulated industry, why rebuilding trust after the deal collapse was harder than expected, and how Plaid is navigating the shift from startup to staple—while staying obsessed with the end user.Links:Connect with ZachXLinkedInConnect with JoubinXLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.comLearn more about

Episode 250: AI Special Featuring Sierra, Harvey, Windsurf & More

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Published: 07/07/2025 04:31:18

Episode 250: AI Special Featuring Sierra, Harvey, Windsurf & More Episode Details

Six leaders from across tech — from SaaS and semis to law and logistics — come together for our 250th episode milestone in this very special AI recap, where we unpack how new advances are transforming the way industries function, and how work gets done.Featuring:• Bret Taylor (Sierra Co-founder)• Winston Weinberg (Harvey Co-founder and CEO)• Matt Murphy (Marvell Technology Chairman and CEO)• Yamini Rangan (HubSpot CEO)• Chris Urmson (Aurora CEO)• Varun Mohan (Windsurf Co-founder and CEO)Connect with Joubin:- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/ - X: https://x.com/Joubinmir Email: grit@kleinerperkins.comLearn more about Kleiner Perkins: https://www.kleinerperkins.com

How Imprint Is Reinventing Credit Cards for Modern Brands | Daragh Murphy

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Published: 06/30/2025 04:32:26

How Imprint Is Reinventing Credit Cards for Modern Brands | Daragh Murphy Episode Details

Daragh Murphy is giving brands their own credit-card platform—no legacy bank required.On this week’s Grit, the Imprint co-founder and CEO traces the leap from being a junior lawyer to closing nine-figure card deals.He breaks down the hidden economics of credit-card loyalty, the discipline of treating capital “like the last dollar,” and how AI will slash risk-and-support costs.Guest: Daragh Murphy, CEO & Co-Founder of ImprintChapters:00:00 Trailer00:48 Introduction01:30 Actualizing the dream08:37 Imprint11:37 Partnerships are massive16:48 Understand the market18:42 “Get more, spend more” tradeoffs23:57 Fishing in the wrong ponds31:32 Can’t skip work32:43 Exciting and

GitLab’s CEO on Why the Next Great Developer Might Not Write Code | Bill Staples

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Published: 06/23/2025 04:41:53

GitLab's CEO on Why the Next Great Developer Might Not Write Code | Bill Staples Episode Details

Bill Staples has spent 30 years redefining how the world writes, ships, and secures code.On this week’s Grit, the GitLab CEO shares what it takes to lead a public, all-remote DevSecOps company trusted by more than half of the Fortune 100. He breaks down the discipline of managing energy instead of hours, why weekly operating cadences beat quarterly plans, and how AI will 10× software engineers by auto-debugging code and closing security gaps.Guest: Bill Staples, CEO of GitLabChapters:00:00 Trailer00:42 Introduction02:34 True joy in life08:16 Winning teams13:53 When the energy isn’t there18:00

Stord’s Plan to Take on Amazon’s Logistics Advantage | Sean Henry

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Published: 06/16/2025 04:18:47

Stord's Plan to Take on Amazon's Logistics Advantage | Sean Henry Episode Details

What does it take to build the logistics backbone for the next generation of commerce?Sean Henry, founder and CEO of Stord, joins Kleiner Perkins partner Ilya Fushman and Grit host Joubin Mirzadegan to talk about scaling a national fulfillment network that now moves 50 million packages a year and reaches 15% of U.S. households.They explore how Stored is using AI to connect warehouses, middle-mile routes, and delivery promises into one smart system. The goal: to give every brand an Amazon Prime-like advantage.Guest: Sean Henry, Co-Founder & CEO of StordLinks:Connect with Sean

Family, Focus, and 350M Users: Inside Zoom with Eric Yuan

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Published: 06/09/2025 05:14:02

Family, Focus, and 350M Users: Inside Zoom with Eric Yuan Episode Details

Eric Yuan turned a simple belief into Zoom, the platform that kept the world moving through a once-in-a-century shutdown and redefined modern work. On this episode of Grit, the Zoom CEO shares why velocity beats size, how a family-first ethos powered his leadership during COVID, and why the coming wave of AI dwarfs the original internet boom. He details how he’s refreshing Zoom’s culture for 7,500 people, opting for virtual deal calls over in person meetings, settling into life as an empty-nester, and keeping Zoom nimble enough to outpace Big Tech

Bret Taylor’s Journey Leading Salesforce, Sierra & OpenAI

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Published: 06/02/2025 04:25:07

Bret Taylor's Journey Leading Salesforce, Sierra & OpenAI Episode Details

Over the past two decades, Bret Taylor has quietly helped shape the arc of Silicon Valley.From co-creating Google Maps to steering Facebook, Salesforce, and OpenAI, he’s been behind some of the most consequential products in tech. Now, with his new company Sierra, he’s starting from zero—again.In this conversation, Bret opens up about how founders navigate identity, why the best ideas often come from everyday friction, and how staying relentlessly focused can unlock real momentum in AI.Guest: Bret Taylor, Co-Founder of SierraChapters:00:00 Trailer00:49 Introduction01:57 Saving OpenAI09:15 Overwhelming yet capable of a lot13:36

Inside Aurora’s Push to Make Autonomous Trucking Real | Chris Urmson

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Published: 05/26/2025 04:44:03

Inside Aurora's Push to Make Autonomous Trucking Real | Chris Urmson Episode Details

Chris Urmson has spent the last 20 years pushing the limits of autonomous driving—first at Carnegie Mellon’s DARPA Grand Challenge team, then as co-founder of Google’s self-driving car project, now Waymo.On this week’s episode, the Aurora CEO retraces that journey—from building robot cars in the desert to leading a public company pioneering driverless trucking.He shares why autonomy was always a matter of when, not if, how he handled a high-profile departure from Waymo, and what it takes to build at the intersection of deep tech, safety, and infrastructure.Now eight years into

From Scaling Cisco to Seeding AI: John T. Chambers on Speed, Strategy, and Reinvention

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Published: 05/19/2025 05:16:35

From Scaling Cisco to Seeding AI: John T. Chambers on Speed, Strategy, and Reinvention Episode Details

John Chambers led Cisco through the rise of the internet—transforming it into the world’s most valuable company at its peak.On this week’s Grit, the former Cisco CEO unpacks how he scaled the business from $70M to $50B+, pioneered M&A as a growth strategy with 180 acquisitions, and built what many called the best sales force in tech.Now leading his own venture firm, Chambers shares how he’s backing the next generation of AI-native startups.Guest: John T. Chambers, Former Cisco Executive Chairman & CEO, JC2 Ventures Founder & CEOChapters: 00:00 Trailer00:45 Introduction01:45 Track

How Matt Murphy Made Marvell Essential to AI and Cloud

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Published: 05/12/2025 04:30:00

How Matt Murphy Made Marvell Essential to AI and Cloud Episode Details

Matt Murphy transformed Marvell from a broad-based chip supplier into a $100B data infrastructure leader—powering the rise of AI, cloud, 5G, and custom silicon.On this week’s Grit, the Marvell CEO shares how he refocused the company’s strategy, led major acquisitions like Inphi ($10B) and Cavium ($6B), and positioned Marvell at the center of the next era of compute.He also reflects on lessons from his father, a longtime CEO, the discipline of running 90 miles a week, and how staying steady through industry cycles has set him apart.Chapters:00:00 Trailer00:47 Introduction03:00 Huge company,

HubSpot CEO on the Future of SaaS, AI, & Leading Through Change

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Published: 05/05/2025 04:16:26

HubSpot CEO on the Future of SaaS, AI, & Leading Through Change Episode Details

From a 350-square-foot home in South India to leading HubSpot, a $30B CRM powerhouse, Yamini Rangan’s journey is nothing short of remarkable. In this episode, Yamini shares how she’s guiding HubSpot through a post-pandemic shift toward product-led growth, the hard-won lessons behind building go-to-market alignment, and why human-centric leadership is her edge in an AI-first world. Plus, her take on why data is the new battleground in tech.Chapters: 00:00 Trailer00:52 Introduction02:22 Fire in my belly10:06 Constraints12:19 Peak performance16:38 Helping while in sheer panic21:43 The general ethos30:14 Customer value36:08 Excited and scared47:25

From White House to Wall Street: David Rubenstein

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Published: 04/28/2025 04:43:31

From White House to Wall Street: David Rubenstein Episode Details

David Rubenstein helped pioneer modern private equity—building The Carlyle Group into a $400B global investment firm from a modest D.C. office and a relentless fundraising streak. But beyond PE, his legacy spans presidential libraries, historic American artifacts, and a lifelong obsession with civic contribution.In this episode, David shares how he raised billions without a background in finance, why owning a baseball team was more than just a trophy purchase—and what building true generational success really means beyond wealth alone.Chapters:00:00 Trailer00:53 Introduction01:40 Family, wealth, class14:40 Happiness disparity and longevity19:25 I need more

No Reset Button: Reinventing Amplitude in a Post-AI World (Spenser Skates)

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Published: 04/21/2025 04:30:07

No Reset Button: Reinventing Amplitude in a Post-AI World (Spenser Skates) Episode Details

Amplitude helped define the modern analytics stack, powering digital products with deep behavioral insights. But in a world shifting toward agentic interfaces and vertically integrated AI, even a category leader has to evolve.In this episode, CEO Spenser Skates shares how he’s rethinking AI within the constraints of a 13-year-old codebase, why analytics remains Amplitude’s competitive edge—and why taking the company public early was a risk worth taking. Chapters:00:00 Trailer00:43 Introduction01:26 AI is still very early05:48 The urgency of building from the ground up08:49 Bringing in new blood11:23 Higher valuations and going

Flexport’s Third Act: Winning in a Broken Global Trade System

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Published: 04/14/2025 04:32:23

Flexport's Third Act: Winning in a Broken Global Trade System Episode Details

Flexport was a breakout success—reimagining global trade with tech at its core. But when the freight market cooled and efficiency overtook service, things started to unravel. Founder Ryan Petersen stepped aside, handing the CEO role to former Amazon exec Dave Clark. Months later, he was back at the helm.In this episode, Ryan explains what went wrong, how he’s rebuilding Flexport—cutting $300M in costs, restoring customer focus—and why promoting from within beats chasing outside stars. He also weighs in on Trump’s proposed tariffs and what they could mean for the future of

Brex 3.0: Inside the Radical Turnaround with Pedro Franceschi

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Published: 04/07/2025 04:58:40

Brex 3.0: Inside the Radical Turnaround with Pedro Franceschi Episode Details

Guest: Pedro FranceschiPedro Franceschi is the co-founder and CEO of Brex, a fintech company reshaping how businesses manage their finances.Originally from Brazil, Pedro went from teenage hacker to leading one of the most well-known names in modern financial technology—building a platform trusted by startups and enterprises alike.In this episode, Pedro shares what it took to launch “Brex 3.0,” why he moved to a single-CEO model, and how tough structural changes set the stage for leaner, faster growth.Chapters:00:00 Trailer00:46 Introduction01:45 Startup roller coaster05:21 Founders know how to have fun07:12 Belief barrier evolution12:00

From India to Silicon Valley: The Jay Chaudhry & Zscaler Story

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Published: 03/31/2025 07:50:58

From India to Silicon Valley: The Jay Chaudhry & Zscaler Story Episode Details

Before Zscaler was a $32B cloud security giant, it was just 10 engineers—half in Bangalore, half in a borrowed U.S. office.As founder and CEO of Zscaler, Jay Chaudhry bet $50M of his own money on one radical idea: secure the internet in the cloud.Born in a Himalayan village with no electricity, he built Zscaler into one of the world’s top cybersecurity giants.In this episode, Jay breaks down why 50% of the Fortune 500 trusts Zscaler, why he still interviews candidates, and how he’s incubating the company’s next big AI bet.Chapters:00:00 Trailer00:42

The Unlikely Path to Building a Billion-Dollar Gov Tech Company | Zac Bookman

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Published: 03/24/2025 02:30:00

The Unlikely Path to Building a Billion-Dollar Gov Tech Company | Zac Bookman Episode Details

Guest: Zac Bookman, CEO and Co-Founder of OpenGovThirteen years after co-founding the government transparency startup OpenGov, Zac Bookman is still finding ways to surprise people. In 2024, Cox Enterprises bought the company for $1.8 billion — but as far as Zac is concerned, “we’re just getting started.”“ I left the vast majority of my net worth in the company,” he says. “So I'm a believer. I'm all in.”The mission of powering “more effective and accountable government” has been stable since OpenGov’s earliest days, and that mission has informed everything from hiring

Bootstrapped to $12B: Mailchimp’s Ben Chestnut on Life After the Exit

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Published: 03/17/2025 02:30:00

Bootstrapped to $12B: Mailchimp's Ben Chestnut on Life After the Exit Episode Details

Guest: Ben Chestnut, Former CEO and Co-Founder of MailchimpIf you find yourself selling your startup, then Mailchimp co-founder Ben Chestnut has some important advice for you: Get a dog. When Intuit bought Mailchimp in 2021 for $12 billion, the company asked Ben if he wanted to stay on as CEO, but he chose to “walk off into the sunset” and let the new owners take over. After that, he estimates it took 6 to 12 months before he stopped checking his email, social media, and calendar with the same level of

Meet the Man Who’s Making Supersonic Flight Possible Again | Blake Scholl

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Published: 03/10/2025 02:30:00

Meet the Man Who's Making Supersonic Flight Possible Again | Blake Scholl Episode Details

Guest: Blake Scholl, Founder & CEO of Boom Supersonic“Passion and drive trumps knowledge and experience,” says Boom Supersonic CEO Blake Scholl. Long before he was running Boom — which earlier this year successfully tested the world’s first privately-developed supersonic jet — he was enabling “the world’s most obnoxious spam cannon” at Groupon, or designing a barcode-scanning game for retail shoppers.But eventually, Blake found the courage to be more audacious and do something closer to his lifelong love of aviation. He began educating himself about things he had never thought to learn,

#232 CEO NetApp, George Kurian: New Chapters

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Published: 03/03/2025 02:30:00

#232 CEO NetApp, George Kurian: New Chapters Episode Details

Guest: George Kurian, CEO of NetAppFor almost 10 years, George Kurian has been CEO of the data infrastructure firm NetApp, overseeing its pivot to cloud services. After he took the job — a surprise promotion dropped on him just days before it was announced — he had to learn on the job how the job could be.“ There are a lot more stakeholders that a CEO has to deal with than a chief product officer,” George says, referring to his previous role. “There's also a lot more external commitment ... It

#231 CEO & Co-Founder Harvey, Winston Weinberg w/ Ilya Fushman: Worthy Sacrifices

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Published: 02/24/2025 02:30:00

#231 CEO & Co-Founder Harvey, Winston Weinberg w/ Ilya Fushman: Worthy Sacrifices Episode Details

Guests: Winston Weinberg, CEO & co-founder of Harvey; and Ilya Fushman, partner at Kleiner Perkins“If you think about pretty much any job out there in the world, we will have some sort of [AI] copilot,” says Kleiner Perkins partner Ilya Fushman. “The question is, who are the right folks to build it, and what’s their vision?”For Harvey CEO & co-founder Winston Weinberg, the vision is clear: Silicon Valley cannot and should not try to disrupt the legal profession by automating the job of lawyers. Instead, he says, they need to have

#230 Co-founder & CEO, Wolt & Head of DoorDash International, Miki Kuusi: The Next Mountain

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Published: 02/17/2025 02:30:00

#230 Co-founder & CEO, Wolt & Head of DoorDash International, Miki Kuusi: The Next Mountain Episode Details

Guest: Miki Kuusi, head of international at Doordash + CEO & co-founder of Wolt + co-founder of Slush tech conferenceBefore Miki Kuusi launched the Finnish delivery startup Wolt, which DoorDash acquired in 2022, he wasn’t just another startup entrepreneur. From 2011 to 2015, Miki was the CEO of the hugely influential European tech conference Slush, which brings thousands of founders and VCs to Helsinki every winter. “You could argue that Slush was my university for things leading up to Wolt, and what I do today,” Miki says. “That's where I learned

#229 Former CEO Activision Blizzard, Bobby Kotick w/ Bing Gordon: Change the Game

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Published: 02/10/2025 02:30:00

#229 Former CEO Activision Blizzard, Bobby Kotick w/ Bing Gordon: Change the Game Episode Details

Guest: Bobby Kotick, former CEO of Activision Blizzard; and Bing Gordon, Advisor at Kleiner PerkinsIn 2020, when President Trump signed the executive order that would ban TikTok in the U.S., Bobby Kotick called his old friend Steven Mnuchin. The former Secretary of the Treasury told him that, if TikTok’s U.S. operations were to be sold to an American company, Microsoft would be the only bidder.A couple calls later, he reached ByteDance founder and CEO Zhang Yiming, who said he’d rather sell to Bobby than Microsoft. Concerned about his ability to get

#228 Co-Founder Alinea & Tock: Selling Experience

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Published: 02/03/2025 02:30:00

#228 Co-Founder Alinea & Tock: Selling Experience Episode Details

Guest: Nick Kokonas, co-founder of the Alinea Group and former CEO of TockAs of October 1, 2024, Nick Kokonas is no longer an owner of the Alinea restaurant group, which he co-founded and ran for almost 20 years. When he bought a vineyard in Napa Valley prior to the exit, one of his sons remarked, “He's given up. Time to go out to pasture.”Nick admits that the work ahead of him is “not the same” as the high-pressure world of a Michelin-starred restaurant in Chicago. But he’s started working with the

#227: CEO & Founder Axon, Rick Smith: Push Risk

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Published: 01/27/2025 02:30:00

#227: CEO & Founder Axon, Rick Smith: Push Risk Episode Details

Guest: Rick Smith, CEO & Founder of Axon (formerly TASER)Being a founder-CEO is a “unique superpower,” says Axon’s Rick Smith: People like him get a longer leash from the board to try things that outside CEOs might not.“My job is to push risk into the organization,” Rick says. “If there's a project with a 50 percent chance of success, a 50 percent chance of failure, but it's going to pay 100 to 1, any finance person will tell you, you should take that bet all day long.”One of those bets was

#226 President & COO Coinbase, Emilie Choi: Through the Storm

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Published: 01/20/2025 02:30:00

#226 President & COO Coinbase, Emilie Choi: Through the Storm Episode Details

Guest: Emilie Choi, president & COO of CoinbaseAfter the collapse of FTX in 2022, “the whole industry was tarnished,” recalls Coinbase COO Emilie Choi. “Politicians came out criticizing crypto, saying it was a fraud.”But unlike FTX, Coinbase was a public company in the U.S. So when the SEC served it a Wells notice, announcing its intent to charge the company with violating securities laws, the executive team took an unusual step: They went on the offensive, publicly calling BS on the agency.“Well-regarded CEOs from TradFi, they were like, ‘You don’t do

#225 CEO Lattice, Sarah Franklin: Trailblazer

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Published: 01/13/2025 02:30:00

#225 CEO Lattice, Sarah Franklin: Trailblazer Episode Details

Guest: Sarah Franklin, CEO of LatticeAs the CEO of a growing company, Lattice’s Sarah Franklin has learned that one of her most important contributions is taking a leap of faith. “You have to have the courage to be the first one to do it,” she says,” and to show that it can be done, and to pave the way so that then your team feels trust.”Sarah cautions, though, that sometimes courage is deciding to stop and go a different direction. As agentic AI becomes more common, the people building companies like

#224 CTO & Co-Owner 37signals, David Heinemeier Hansson: Perfect Flow

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Published: 01/06/2025 02:30:00

#224 CTO & Co-Owner 37signals, David Heinemeier Hansson: Perfect Flow Episode Details

Guest: David Heinemeier Hansson, CTO & co-owner of 37signals and creator of Ruby on Rails 37signals CTO David Heinemeier Hansson has organized his life around his passions: Writing, racing sports cars, and coding. “ Why aren't we all doing that?” he wonders. “Why aren't we all trying to optimize our life in such a way that much of it is enjoyable?”Part of the problem, David argues, is that it’s impossible to find a creative or productive flow inside of mainstream work culture. Open offices, managerial over-hiring, and sloppy scheduling prevents people

#223 Great Stories and Gritty Advice for 2025

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Published: 12/30/2024 10:56:21

#223 Great Stories and Gritty Advice for 2025 Episode Details

On this special episode of Grit, we look back at some of the coolest stories and best advice our guests have shared in 2024. Chapters:(00:49) - David Risher on his Amazon easter egg & moving on (07:02) - Jason Kilar on bouncing between relevance & irrelevance (15:13) - Eoghan McCabe on "re-founding" the company he started (22:59) - Mark Fields on battling with Trump & running to the fire (29:41) - John Hanke on intensity and balance (38:00) - Rony Abovitz on whether losing he's bitter about losing Magic Leap to

#222 CEO San Francisco Giants, Larry Baer: Winning Plays

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Published: 12/23/2024 02:30:00

#222 CEO San Francisco Giants, Larry Baer: Winning Plays Episode Details

Guest: Larry Baer, CEO of the San Francisco GiantsIn 1992, Larry Baer was part of the ownership group that bought the San Francisco Giants and successfully prevented the team from being moved to Tampa, Florida. Back then, they had a big problem to solve: An old, uncomfortable ballpark that voters wanted to see replaced, but didn’t want to pay for.20 years after the construction and financial success of Candlestick Park’s replacement, Oracle Park, Baer — now the CEO of the Giants — embarked on an even bigger project, developing an entire

#221 CEO & Chairman Sony Pictures, Tony Vinciquerra: Into the Fire

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Published: 12/16/2024 02:30:00

#221 CEO & Chairman Sony Pictures, Tony Vinciquerra: Into the Fire Episode Details

Guest: Tony Vinciquerra, outgoing CEO of Sony PicturesTony Vinciquerra never planned to get into the entertainment business, let alone to become one of the most powerful people in Hollywood. After seven years, he’s about to leave the CEO role at Sony Pictures (although he will stay on as chairman for one more year) and attributes much of his success to luck: “I’ve been in the right place at the right time a lot of times.” That said, he also encourages his children to proactively be curious, something that has served Tony

#220 Former CEO Amazon Worldwide Consumer, Jeff Wilke: Exponential

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Published: 12/09/2024 02:30:00

#220 Former CEO Amazon Worldwide Consumer, Jeff Wilke: Exponential Episode Details

Guest: Jeff Wilke, former CEO of Amazon Worldwide Consumer and chairman of Re:Build ManufacturingJeff Wilke worked more than 20 years at Amazon, overseeing the million-person team that speedily gets packages from warehouses to doorsteps. In hindsight, he observes that Amazon Prime’s exponential growth was actually an incremental daily process.“I used to say things like, ‘If God was running this plant, whoever is your God ... they can’t violate physical laws. How well would they do?’ And then we know where we are,” Jeff says.“If we’re perfect in it, compounding over all

#219 CEO Tanium, Dan Streetman: Critical Responsibility

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Published: 12/02/2024 02:30:00

#219 CEO Tanium, Dan Streetman: Critical Responsibility Episode Details

Guest: Dan Streetman, CEO of TaniumA graduate of West Point who served in Iraq combat operations, Tanium CEO Dan Streetman can’t help but compare his business career to his military experience. Understanding huge structures and processes is a crucial skill at both Tanium and in the Army, he says, as are the skills for aligning people around a shared mission.“Before you go on an operation, you write a thing called an operations order ... [and] one of the most important things at the operations order is this paragraph called the commander's

#218 CEO Etsy, Josh Silverman: Second Acts

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Published: 11/25/2024 02:30:00

#218 CEO Etsy, Josh Silverman: Second Acts Episode Details

Guest: Josh Silverman, CEO of EtsyWhen Josh Silverman joined the board of Etsy, he had one condition: “Don’t ask me to the be the CEO.” And technically, they didn’t ask. One day, he got a phone call informing him the board had elected him as the new CEO, just days before an earnings miss. He knew the odds were against him — layoffs would be necessary, and “I was going to have to be the villain” — but decided to say yes out of a sense of duty to Etsy’s users

#217 CEO & Co-Founder Codeium, Varun Mohan w/ Leigh Marie Braswell: Limitless

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Published: 11/18/2024 02:30:00

#217 CEO & Co-Founder Codeium, Varun Mohan w/ Leigh Marie Braswell: Limitless Episode Details

Guests: Varun Mohan, CEO & Co-Founder of Codeium; and Leigh Marie Braswell, partner at Kleiner Perkins“A lot of people are really bad at knowing what good is,” says Codeium CEO Varun Mohan. Specifically, he’s thinking of startups that hire based on a “logo” — a well-known company on the résumé — rather than exceptional talent. Codeium is based in Mountain View, CA, and Varun believes that it’s incumbent on any new startup to hire in the San Francisco Bay Area, because of how exceptional talent is concentrated there. “When you hire

#216 Founder Khan Academy, Sal Khan: Dangerously Curious

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Published: 11/11/2024 02:30:00

#216 Founder Khan Academy, Sal Khan: Dangerously Curious Episode Details

Guest: Sal Khan, founder of Khan AcademyAI is poised to change nearly every business, but few are changing as quickly as education. And Sal Khan, who has spend more than a decade manually creating more than 7,000 educational videos, says that’s a good thing. He’s encouraged Khan Academy to focus on “disrupt[ing] ourselves ... more than almost any other organization that I know of.” The reason is backed up by the data: Personalized tutors — designed to help students achieve mastery in a subject, but previously thought to be unscalable —

#215 COO Rippling Matt MacInnis: Learn the Engine

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Published: 11/04/2024 02:30:00

#215 COO Rippling Matt MacInnis: Learn the Engine Episode Details

Guest: Matt MacInnis, COO of RipplingOne of the most important things a non-founder can do, says Rippling COO Matt MacInnis, is to learn how to operate in the context of the company they’re joining. His CEO, Parker Conrad, “spikes” in certain skill areas, and the rest of the executive team needs to maximize his ability to thrive while “taking care of the rest of it.” Matt likened the work to being a hobbyist airplane pilot, who can’t get a license without knowing all the minute details about their plane’s engine and

#214 Former CEO Hulu & WarnerMedia Jason Kilar: No Labels

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Published: 10/28/2024 02:30:00

#214 Former CEO Hulu & WarnerMedia Jason Kilar: No Labels Episode Details

Guest: Jason Kilar, former CEO & co-founder of Hulu and former CEO of WarnerMediaWhen Jason Kilar was a child, he was obsessed with Walt Disney — not just as a filmmaker or the creator of Disneyland, but as an entrepreneur. He started his career at the Walt Disney Company (where else?) but then got his first opportunity to help build something new when a young startup entrepreneur from Seattle visited his business school classroom. Most of Jason’s classmates predicted the failure of this startup, Amazon.com, which elicited “this awesome laugh, the

#213 CEO & Co-Founder Loom Joe Thomas w/ Ilya Fushman: After the Exit

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Published: 10/21/2024 02:30:00

#213 CEO & Co-Founder Loom Joe Thomas w/ Ilya Fushman: After the Exit Episode Details

Guests: Joe Thomas, CEO and co-founder of Loom; and Ilya Fushman, partner at Kleiner PerkinsLoom CEO Joe Thomas had a lot of things to think about before he sold his company to Atlassian for $975 million: The impact an acquisition might have on the product, how to keep the Loom brand alive, the risk of remaining independent... but it wasn’t until after the deal was announced that he really understood what it meant for his team. “I didn't know how emotional it'd be for me,” Joe says. “All of the Loom

#212 Founder Magic Leap & SynthBee Rony Abovitz: Underdog

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Published: 10/14/2024 02:30:00

#212 Founder Magic Leap & SynthBee Rony Abovitz: Underdog Episode Details

Guest: Rony Abovitz, founder & CEO of SynthBeeSynthBee CEO Rony Abovitz grew up “really believing” in Star Wars and the idea that there could be benevolent, artificially intelligent beings like R2-D2 and C-3PO.“It wasn't a dystopian vision of the future,” he says. “It wasn't HAL from 2001. It wasn't the Terminator. It wasn't Skynet. It was this kind of friendly, empathetic, more utopian vision.” George Lucas himself told Rony to tone it down and not “take it so literally” — but he was undeterred. The way he describes today’s leading AI

#211 CEO & Co-Founder Klarna, Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Country Cousin

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Published: 10/07/2024 02:30:00

#211 CEO & Co-Founder Klarna, Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Country Cousin Episode Details

Guest: Sebastian Siemiatkowski, CEO and co-founder of KlarnaLiving and working in Stockholm, Klarna CEO Sebastian Siemiatkowski thinks a lot about how he’s perceived in Silicon Valley: “I feel like here I am, I am the small, country cousin from Sweden.” And on top of that, he knew that someone like Sam Altman wouldn’t initially think of a European banking startup as an ideal partner for OpenAI — so, he made up an excuse to fly to San Francisco and meet with Altman. “I felt like, OK, this is going to be

#210 CEO & Co-Founder Huntress Kyle Hanslovan w/ Ev Randle: Deep Roots

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Published: 09/30/2024 02:30:00

#210 CEO & Co-Founder Huntress Kyle Hanslovan w/ Ev Randle: Deep Roots Episode Details

Guest: Kyle Hanslovan, CEO & co-founder of Huntress; and Ev Randle, partner at Kleiner PerkinsTalk is cheap, says Huntress CEO Kyle Hanslovan: “I learned real early on that integrity is like one of the very few things, if not the only thing, you can't buy.” En route to Huntress’ current status as a $1.5 billion firm with $100 million in ARR, he took a long time to hire new execs, or partner with VC firms.Indeed, Kleiner Perkins partner Ev Randle recalls the deliberation Hanslovan underwent before signing KP’s term sheet. “It's

#209 Former President & CEO Ford, Mark Fields: All Cylinders

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Published: 09/23/2024 02:30:00

#209 Former President & CEO Ford, Mark Fields: All Cylinders Episode Details

Guest: Mark Fields, former president & CEO of Ford Motor Company and chairperson at PlanviewIn 2005, Mark Fields was asked to run the Americas for the Ford Motor Company, a role he would serve in for 7 years, later becoming COO and then CEO. His wife and kids were used to relocating for Mark’s job, but had just put down roots in Florida. He told them that this time, they should stay put — he would commute between Florida and Detroit every week, and call home for an hour every night.

#208 CEO & Co-Founder Patreon, Jack Conte: Crowd Surfer

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Published: 09/16/2024 02:30:00

#208 CEO & Co-Founder Patreon, Jack Conte: Crowd Surfer Episode Details

Guest: Jack Conte, CEO & co-founder of PatreonFor many YouTube video creators, getting millions of views on your videos may seem like the goal. But when Jack Conte and his wife Nataly Dawn became YouTube stars through their band Pomplamoose, they didn’t automatically find gold at the end of the rainbow.“You check your ad revenue and you make 48 bucks in ad revenue and you're like, ‘Oh my God, I'm worthless,’” Jack recalls. “And you check that dashboard every day ... and eventually you start to believe that you're worth $48

#207 Co-Founder & Chairman Zynga, Mark Pincus: Speed of Play

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Published: 09/09/2024 02:30:00

#207 Co-Founder & Chairman Zynga, Mark Pincus: Speed of Play Episode Details

Guest: Mark Pincus, founder & chairman of Zynga, and managing member & co-founder of Reinvent CapitalBefore Zynga and Facebook made social gaming mainstream, the video game industry was “extreme on this being about art and crafting,” recalls Zynga founder Mark Pincus. He believes his winning instinct was the realization that games were “at least 50 percent science” — but it’s not enough to just have the instinct. Mark says entrepreneurs like him have to quickly take multiple shots on the goal and “look for feedback loops that tell you your instinct

#206 CEO & Founder Rivian, RJ Scaringe: Electrified

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Published: 09/02/2024 02:30:00

#206 CEO & Founder Rivian, RJ Scaringe: Electrified Episode Details

Guest: RJ Scaringe, CEO and Founder of Rivian“I’m very comfortable with things not being in their end state,” says Rivian CEO and founder RJ Scaringe. The company’s challenging mission — to help make 100% of the world’s cars electric — will take a long time, and a lot of willingness to build the metaphorical plane in midair. As Rivian has grown from one person to seven to 17,000, though, RJ admits that there’s a lot more pressure to not screw up. “There’s all these conflicting emotions I had ... is this

#205 CEO Snowflake, Sridhar Ramaswamy: Visibility

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Published: 08/26/2024 02:30:00

#205 CEO Snowflake, Sridhar Ramaswamy: Visibility Episode Details

Guest: Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO of Snowflake“People underestimate what it is to go through a complete reset,” says Snowflake CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy. And he knows it: After an incredible 15-year run at Google, he started over from zero with an AI search startup, Neeva. And in hindsight, he regrets not trying to port over more of the skills that had made him a successful leader before. “You should be truthful with yourself about what is it that you know that you're really good at,” he says.In this episode, Sridhar and Joubin discuss

#204 Founder & Former CEO Blue Bottle, James Freeman: After the Exit

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Published: 08/19/2024 02:30:00

#204 Founder & Former CEO Blue Bottle, James Freeman: After the Exit Episode Details

Guest: James Freeman, Founder and Former CEO of Blue Bottle CoffeeIn the six or so years since he sold his last shares of Blue Bottle Coffee to Nestlé, James Freeman has had a lot of time to ruminate — about how he succeeded in creating a unique café experience, and also the ways he failed his workers as a manager. But he’s already thinking about how he’ll be better in round 2. “I've changed so much — physically, mentally, emotionally — I feel like I could be a better collaborator,” James

#203 CEO Niantic, John Hanke: Buried Ships

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Published: 08/12/2024 02:30:00

#203 CEO Niantic, John Hanke: Buried Ships Episode Details

Guest: John Hanke, CEO of NianticWhen Pokémon Go launched, Niantic CEO John Hanke was enjoying a tranquil walk through a bamboo forest near Kyoto with his son. When he got back, it was all hands on deck: Building on a platform Niantic had developed for its previous game, Ingress, Pokémon Go was a runaway success story, earning $100 million dollars in revenue in its first week, and $1 billion in its first seven months. “I had a huge amount of anxiety that this is just too good to be true,” John

#202 Chairman of Qualcomm, Mark McLaughlin: The Right Pitch

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Published: 08/05/2024 02:30:00

#202 Chairman of Qualcomm, Mark McLaughlin: The Right Pitch Episode Details

Guest: Mark McLaughlin, chairman of the board at Qualcomm When he was 24, Mark McLaughlin thought his career was over. Since childhood, he had dreamed of attending West Point and joining the Army, but a helicopter crash left him unable to serve, with a medical discharge. However, the crash also let him stay closer to his then-girlfriend Karen. They married and raised three children, and Mark found success in his new career, serving as CEO of Palo Alto Networks and now chairman of the board at Qualcomm. “In hindsight,” he says,

#201 CEO Lyft, David Risher: The Ride

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Published: 07/29/2024 02:30:00

#201 CEO Lyft, David Risher: The Ride Episode Details

Guest: David Risher, CEO of LyftDavid Risher can measure his career in phone calls, from the one that introduced him to Jeff Bezos in 1995, to the call from the Lyft board in 2023, asking him to vie for the CEO job. But initially, he believed his life’s legacy might be the nonprofit Worldreader, which has brought books to more than 22 million readers around the globe; he had to convince himself that turning Lyft around during one of its most difficult eras was also a call worth answering.In this episode,

#200 CEO & Co-Founder Together AI, Vipul Ved Prakash w/ Bucky Moore: Super Cycle

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Published: 07/22/2024 02:30:00

#200 CEO & Co-Founder Together AI, Vipul Ved Prakash w/ Bucky Moore: Super Cycle Episode Details

Guests: Vipul Ved Prakash, CEO and co-founder of Together AI; and Bucky Moore, partner at Kleiner PerkinsNo one knows for sure whether the future of AI will be driven more by research labs and AI-native companies, or by enterprises applying the technology to their own data sets. But one thing is for sure, says Together AI CEO and co-founder Vipul Ved Prakash: It’s going to be a lot bigger. “If you look at the next 10 years or the next 20 years, we are doing maybe 0.1 percent of [the] AI

#199 CEO & Co-Founder Klaviyo, Andrew Bialecki: High Slope

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Published: 07/15/2024 02:30:00

#199 CEO & Co-Founder Klaviyo, Andrew Bialecki: High Slope Episode Details

Guest: Andrew Bialecki, CEO of KlaviyoWhenever the marketing platform Klaviyo is hiring, says CEO Andrew Bialecki, “we sort of don't care so much what skills you have.” Instead, the company looks for “high slope” individuals who are curious and able to continually learn new things. “A big turnoff for me is [when] somebody says, ‘Oh, well, I was never good at that when I was growing up,’” Andrew explains. “You know, ‘I'm not a good writer’ or ‘I'm not good with numbers.’ And it's like, well, OK, but anybody can learn

#198 CEO & Co-Founder Wayfair, Niraj Shah: Homeward

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Published: 07/08/2024 02:30:00

#198 CEO & Co-Founder Wayfair, Niraj Shah: Homeward Episode Details

Guest: Niraj Shah, CEO and co-founder of WayfairWayfair CEO Niraj Shah caught the entrepreneurship bug in his mid-20s, when he and his longtime co-founder Steve Conine sold their first company just a few years out of college. They left the acquirer and independently realized “we absolutely wanted to start something else,” Niraj recalls. “Once you’ve done that, if you enjoy that, it’s very hard to pursue something more traditional.” But the “if you enjoy that” bit really matters: Whenever he’s counseling younger people, Niraj tells them to pursue something they’re genuinely

#197 CEO, Chairman & Founder Zscaler, Jay Chaudhry: No Attachment

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Published: 07/01/2024 02:30:00

#197 CEO, Chairman & Founder Zscaler, Jay Chaudhry: No Attachment Episode Details

Guest: Jay Chaudhry, CEO, chairman, and founder of ZscalerMuch of the media coverage of Zscaler CEO Jay Chaudhry is quick to identify him as the wealthiest Indian-American person, with a net worth of $10.8 billion. But to hear Jay himself tell it, that number has never been very important to him: “My family had no money,” he says of his childhood in India. “I had no attachment for money. There was no feeling of ‘I must buy this, buy this.’ ... And it hasn’t changed a bit.” Perhaps surprisingly, he says

#196 CEO & Co-Founder Braze, Bill Magnuson: Principles of Change

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Published: 06/24/2024 02:30:00

#196 CEO & Co-Founder Braze, Bill Magnuson: Principles of Change Episode Details

Guest: Bill Magnuson, CEO and co-founder of BrazeThe deployment of smartphones around the world was more impactful than any other technology to date, says Braze CEO Bill Magnuson — and that has big implications for emerging fields like generative AI. “If we get to the point where they [LLMs] really can be useful, human-like companions ... they will be usable by everyone that has smartphone technology.” In other words, the question is not business opportunity or scale: It’s capability.In this episode, Bill and Joubin discuss earnings days, Aaron Levie, MIT, customer

#195 CEO Salesforce AI, Clara Shih: Above the Clouds

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Published: 06/17/2024 02:30:00

#195 CEO Salesforce AI, Clara Shih: Above the Clouds Episode Details

Guest: Clara Shih, CEO of Salesforce AIIn 2020, Clara Shih quit Hearsay, the company she founded and ran for 11 years; in hindsight, she says “I probably should have quit a little bit sooner.” But at the time, she cared a lot — too much — about what everyone else thought. “There's a lot of guilt around leaving initially and feeling bad for feeling bad,” Clara says. But her worries subsided when her replacement and former COO, Mike Boese, guided the company with “class and grace” to an exit: A $125

#194 CEO & Founder Sunshine, Marissa Mayer: Innovative Instincts

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Published: 06/10/2024 02:30:00

#194 CEO & Founder Sunshine, Marissa Mayer: Innovative Instincts Episode Details

Guest: Marissa Mayer, CEO and Founder of Sunshine and former CEO of YahooWhen Marissa Mayer was first hired as the CEO of Yahoo, the company had lost nearly a quarter of its workforce in the preceding six months. Early on, she was chatting with employees in the cafeteria and one of them got her attention by smacking her tray. “Is it go time?” he asked. He was asking if the board and C-suite were ready to lead the company forward, but Marissa thought he had one foot out the door. “I

#193 Former CEO Nextdoor, Sarah Friar: Four Circles

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Published: 06/03/2024 02:30:00

#193 Former CEO Nextdoor, Sarah Friar: Four Circles Episode Details

Guest: Sarah Friar, former CEO of NextdoorSarah Friar has worked with some of the top leaders in Silicon Valley, including Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff, Walmart CEO Doug McMillon, Block CEO Jack Dorsey, and most recently Nextdoor founder Nirav Tolia, who just replaced her as CEO in May. And one of the things that sets top performers apart from the rest, she argues, is their compassion and their responsiveness. When her former EA’s husband was diagnosed with cancer, Sarah texted Benioff — who she had just left behind to work at Square

#192 CTO & Co-Founder Discord, Stanislav Vishnevskiy: Ship It

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Published: 05/27/2024 02:30:00

#192 CTO & Co-Founder Discord, Stanislav Vishnevskiy: Ship It Episode Details

Guest: Stanislav Vishnevskiy, CTO and co-founder of DiscordFor many years, the conventional wisdom was the gaming was not social because it was something you usually did at home. “But people who play games are often the most social,” says Discord CTO Stanislav Vishnevskiy. “They’re spending 10, 20 hours with other people online, hanging out.” As a teenager, Stanislav logged more than 1,000 days playing his favorite video game and socializing with friends around the world, but with 200 million monthly active users, the social platform is appealing to a lot more

#191 CEO & Co-Founder Intercom, Eoghan McCabe: Second Beginning

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Published: 05/20/2024 02:30:00

#191 CEO & Co-Founder Intercom, Eoghan McCabe: Second Beginning Episode Details

Guest: Eoghan McCabe, CEO, Chairman, and Co-Founder of Intercom“We are not ready for the degree to which our world is going to change,” says Intercom CEO Eoghan McCabe, “in insane and incredible ways.” When he co-founded the company in 2011, the Irish-born entrepreneur was making it easier for companies to offer human customer service to their customers. But Eoghan believes “every single type of knowledge work” will soon be done by AI, and Intercom is well on its way to that destination: 45 percent of all tickets are being answered by

#190 Co-Founder Cost Plus Drugs, Mark Cuban: Mavs to Meds

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Published: 05/13/2024 02:30:00

#190 Co-Founder Cost Plus Drugs, Mark Cuban: Mavs to Meds Episode Details

Guest: Mark Cuban, co-founder of Cost Plus Drugs and costar, Shark Tank“I just love to compete,” says Mark Cuban. “And the day I stop is the day I’m dead.” Previously the co-founder of MicroSolutions and Broadcast.com, Cuban is probably best known to the public today for competing with the likes of Daymond John and Barbara Corcoran on the reality TV show Shark Tank. But his real focus — and his real enemy — these days is the pharmaceutical industry. His latest company, Cost Plus Drugs, aims to be far more transparent

#189 Co-Founder Watershed, Taylor Francis: Worthy Missions

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Published: 05/06/2024 02:30:00

#189 Co-Founder Watershed, Taylor Francis: Worthy Missions Episode Details

Guest: Taylor Francis, co-founder of WatershedOne day when he was 13, Taylor Francis walked out of the movie theater, and he was pissed off. He had just seen Al Gore’s documentary An Inconvenient Truth and internalized a “generational call to arms, that my parents had screwed our generation” by causing the climate crisis, he says. 14 years later, he was working at Stripe and felt another call to arms: The 2020s would be a crucial decade for slashing carbon emissions and combating global warming. So, he and his co-founders Avi Itskovich

#188 CEO & Co-Founder Synthesia, Victor Riparbelli w/ Josh Coyne: Gorilla in the Room

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Published: 04/29/2024 02:30:00

#188 CEO & Co-Founder Synthesia,�Victor�Riparbelli w/ Josh Coyne: Gorilla in the Room Episode Details

Guests: Victor Riparbelli, CEO and co-founder of Synthesia; and Josh Coyne, partner at Kleiner PerkinsWhen Victor Riparbelli wants to learn something, he’ll start with a YouTube video or a podcast: “I maybe buy the book on Amazon as like the fifth step,” the Synthesia CEO says. His company is trying to change the text-first (or text-only) way information is conveyed at work, making AI avatar-narrated videos to replace documents like customer profiles and HR manuals. Victor says that as the technology improves over many years, it could replace text entirely. “I

#187 President & COO of AG1, Kat Cole: Wings to Supplements

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Published: 04/22/2024 02:30:00

#187 President & COO of AG1, Kat Cole: Wings to Supplements Episode Details

Guest: Kat Cole, COO of Athletic GreensYou can’t make smart decisions if you don’t know the truth — the “true truth,” as Athletic Greens COO Kat Cole puts it. “As you get bigger and you have success, innovator’s dilemma, you end up talking to yourself instead of really being rooted in what’s going on.” That’s why she has embraced the anxiety of the unknown, channeling what she doesn’t know about the market into productive questions for her team and her customers. Anxiety can be harmful, she concedes, but “there’s a healthy

#186 COO Asana, Anne Raimondi: Recovering Perfectionist

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Published: 04/15/2024 02:30:00

#186 COO Asana, Anne Raimondi: Recovering Perfectionist Episode Details

Guest: Anne Raimondi, COO and Head of Business at AsanaAsana COO Anne Raimondi feels pressure to perform in her job “every day, all the time.” But that pressure doesn’t come from her fellow executives; she imposes it on herself, trying to think carefully about how much each of her decisions will impact her team. “I have a lot of privilege and choice,” Anne says, “of how I spend my time, the resources available to me, and am I doing enough? ... Am I doing the most with the opportunities I have,

#185 CEO & Founder Netskope, Sanjay Beri: The Trenches

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Published: 04/08/2024 02:30:00

#185 CEO & Founder Netskope, Sanjay Beri: The Trenches Episode Details

Guest: Sanjay Beri, CEO and Founder of Netskope“You can be waiting your whole life to do something, and then your life’s over,” says Sanjay Beri. After nine years at Juniper Networks, he left his comfortable job, moved his family to a house with a pricier mortgage, and launched the cloud security firm Netskope. His entrepreneurial story would make anyone stressed, he acknowledges, but “at some level, you have to be wired to enjoy it… that's why I tell everybody who joins, ‘It's not for the faint of heart.’”In this episode, Sanjay

#184 Former CEO & Co-Founder Sun, Scott McNealy: In the Piñata

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Published: 04/01/2024 02:30:00

#184 Former CEO & Co-Founder Sun, Scott McNealy: In the Pi�ata Episode Details

Guest: Scott McNealy, former CEO and co-founder of Sun Microsystems & co-founder of CurrikiScott McNealy never wanted to be CEO of Sun, and in his 22-year tenure before selling to Oracle, he knows there were times he failed to execute, or to rein in the once-iconic Silicon Valley firm’s worst impulses. But like his pro golfer son, Maverick, Scott doesn’t like to look back: “Golfers will always look back and blame the wind, a divot that wasn't repaired, a bad rake job, a mower cut that wasn't done properly, a gust

#183 CEO & Co-Founder Harness, Jyoti Bansal: Three-Layered Cake

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Published: 03/25/2024 02:30:00

#183 CEO & Co-Founder Harness, Jyoti Bansal: Three-Layered Cake Episode Details

Guest: Jyoti Bansal, CEO and co-founder of HarnessCisco bought Jyoti Bansal’s first company AppDynamics for $3.7 billion, making him a very wealthy man. But after two African safaris, a week of Michelin-starred meals in Tokyo, and more adventures all around the world, he realized that spending his money didn’t truly make him happy. After some soul-searching, he realized what he really enjoyed: “I liked to build companies. That is my craft ... If someone enjoys playing gold for six hours, I would enjoy working on a startup for six hours.”In this